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Post by Oil kings GM on Jan 10, 2008 21:30:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2008 22:07:24 GMT -5
WOW!
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Post by helionsgm on Jan 10, 2008 22:13:50 GMT -5
That nuts... I gotta be honest I find myself liking Ovechkin more then Crosby some days...
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Post by panthersgm on Jan 10, 2008 23:34:57 GMT -5
i think its too long
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Post by major on Jan 11, 2008 11:48:53 GMT -5
so hes under contract till 35..making close to 10 mill per season.
JUST WOW
Nice current-team discount, he'll be occupying 1/5 of their cap space. Good luck getting some help and complimentory players there AO. He may have the better personality than Crosby but he went for the money rather than winning.
My point is, why sign him to this deal now? Hes getting the max, theres no discount. Why not let him goto RFA and some team may have signed him a offer sheet for less money. I wouldve taken my chances with that.
ah well, caps will suck for few more years.
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Post by vancouverhotheads on Jan 11, 2008 14:46:21 GMT -5
since when did restricted free agents get paid as much as unrestricted free agents? ovechkin's great and he's worth the money but they didn't have to pay him that much. i suppose they're showing faith and loyalty to their superstar though so in that regard it makes sense.
on a side note, i think the nhl owners are the stupidest group of professional sports team owners. they whined and moaned about escalating salaries and they needed a cap system to prevent salaries from getting out of hand. then they use nearly 20% of their cap space to sign one player. the richest contract in the history of the NHL has been awarded in a system that was supposed to limit these things. i don't begrudge a player making as much as he can. i just can't stand the ignorance of the ownership group that runs the league.
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Post by Vampyre on Jan 11, 2008 14:58:11 GMT -5
'Richest' contract is relative....
Is a 9.5 mil/yr contract in 2008 better than a 3 mil/yr contract in 1980?
The offer sheets are a part of what allows RFAs to be paid ridiculous sums....if it weren't for fear, they could've waited to go to arbitration in the summer.
I have more of a problem with the lengths of these contracts.
How long does the average GM control his team? Maybe somewhere between 3 and 8 years? If that's the case, then a GM handing out a contract for more than a decade down the road will handicap any future GM (maybe for longer than their own term with the team)....especially when this is a cap league.
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Post by vancouverhotheads on Jan 11, 2008 15:35:26 GMT -5
i do agree that it is relative however nobody made that kind of money in the early 80s in hockey. wayne gretzky signed a $3 million per year contract with the kings in the early 90s. up to that point, he had not earned more than $1.7 million per season. would that $1.7 million per season contract that the greatest hockey player ever had in the late 80s be proportionate to those that are handed out today.
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Post by Vampyre on Jan 11, 2008 15:53:47 GMT -5
Possibly....but it would be better to look at a contract from the period 1992-2004, for a proper comparison I would think....like Jagr's maybe.
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Post by vancouverhotheads on Jan 11, 2008 16:04:18 GMT -5
jagr's is probably bigger now that you mention it. i think he was signed for $11 million per season by the caps. bobby holik also got a $9 million per season deal. bobby freaking holik. i forgot about those two landmark deals. ovie's is just the richest in total value.
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Post by Vampyre on Jan 11, 2008 16:11:44 GMT -5
I'd agree with that.
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Post by Oil kings GM on Jan 11, 2008 17:04:58 GMT -5
I read that Ovechkin's deal would pay him $9M/season for the first 6 and then $10M/season for the last 7 seasons.
I am sorry, but no player is worth that kind of money. Yes I do mean all sports and not just hockey. How I see it is that these guys are entertainers and that is it. They are suppose to play because they "love the game", but yet it doesn't look that way. Can we sit here and honestly say that any professional athlete should be paid more than a surgeon, firefighter, police officer? I don't think so.
I also agree with Jared about the owners being the stupidest in any sport. Saying that they need a salary cap to keep salaries from rising, but yet, they are handing out long term contracts and money like it is going out of style. I understand keeping your 'star' player(s) locked up long term, but it will handicap you in the long run.
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Post by panthersgm on Jan 14, 2008 23:28:23 GMT -5
how bout u guys f**king apply for the spot on the owners of the NHL cuz u guys are nuts about this sport.
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Post by Vampyre on Jan 14, 2008 23:30:09 GMT -5
It's a canuck thing.  |
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Post by Commish on Jan 15, 2008 8:02:15 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't really know what these GM's are thinking when they sign these guys to such long term contracts. There is so many things that can change over the period of 13 years. The salary cap may go down, the GM will most certainly be replaced at some point during that span, the player may get injured, etc....... Not to mention the fact that know that Ovechkin for example has his big pay check, he may not play as hard knowing that they will have to pay him regardless......
I'm of the mentality that no NHL contract should exceed more then five years and even that is only for a few significant players.
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